The End of Tweetadder as We Know It

It looks like TweetAdder, the popular Twitter software that many internet marketers use to build their Twitter following, could be coming to an end. Well, to be more specific, it seems like the end of the script as we know it.

I discussed TweetAdder briefly in my article “The Art of Following“. It is an application that I have used to build the following of several Twitter accounts for websites I own. The script has its pros and cons. Despite being actively updated on a regular basis, the application crashes on a daily basis. I usually have to reload it two or three times during the day. It’s a minor inconvenience, though it can be frustrating at times because you are left thinking the application is still running when it actually crashed an hour beforehand.

When I loaded it up today I saw an update message advising that I have a day left to update from TweetAdder 3.0 to TweetAdder 4.0. A quick look on their blog confirms that they notified everyone of this update on 23 April 2013, however I did not receive any email about it.

TweetAdder Software Update

The update is a result of a legal dispute between Twitter and the developers of TweetAdder. As a result of the settlement, the software no longer permits you to follow and unfollow users. This, afterall, is the sole reason everyone purchased TweetAdder, but there is not much a company can do when a billion dollar behemoth sues your ass for everything you’ve got.

Here is the message in full:

Twitter and TweetAdder have mutually agreed upon a final confidential settlement of their legal dispute regarding TweetAdder Software.

TweetAdder Version 3.0 and all prior versions of TweetAdder will no longer be available or supported as of 4/26/2013.
All current TweetAdder users will be required to upgrade to the new version of TweetAdder 4.0 by May 24, 2013. As a reminder, TweetAdder users must comply with Twitter’s Terms of Service.
We are excited to provide new services to Twitter users and deliver an innovative solution for businesses and individuals to manage their accounts.
TweetAdder 4.0 has been designed to comply with all of Twitter’s Terms of Service.

Auto Follow and Unfollow have been removed to comply with Twitter’s TOS in order to continue offering the program.

4.0 Feature Set

-Uses Twitter API and Oauth
-Crash Fixes
-Removed Automated @Reply, Tweet Generator, Scheduled Follow
-Altered some functions to comply with Twitter TOS
-Improved Search Filters (works with all search types)
-Filter Results by:
-Followers
-Friends
-Tweets
-Filter Private Accounts
-Filter Accounts with default profile images& More
-View Profile Pics in Results
-New Unfollow filtering options
-Not Following Back
-Unfollowed Me
-No Profile Image
-Foreign Language
-High Ratio
-Inactive
-Talkative
-Quiet
-Updated profile data search – up-to-date search results
-Improved White/Black List now supports importing and exporting

While it is easy to assume that TweetAdder4 is less functional because it no longer automatically follows and unfollows, we have carefully developed many new features into the software so that it is actually much more powerful and useful in many ways.

All of the search functions are now much more powerful, and allow you to filter and sort results based on many criteria. The interface is vastly improved, allowing you see pertinent information at a glance, see user icons, and easily find high quality users. The increase in quality greatly outweighs any perceived difference in convenience.
TweetAdder4 also features multiple powerful options for deciding who to unfollow. With previous versions, the only metric was based on if someone followed you back. Now, in addition to that, you can see users who have unfollowed you, who have no profile image, use a foreign language, have a high ratio, are inactive, talkative (spammy users who tweet too often), or quiet (users who are not actively engaged). By unfollowing these lower quality inactive users, and following high quality engaged users, TweetAdder4 allows you to easily increase the quality of users following your account, making your Tweets more effective.

TweetAdder4 is uses the Twitter API & fully complies with the Twitter TOS. This is a huge improvement because you can be confident in using it, and confident in knowing that you are not violating Twitter’s Terms by using it. Use of any software that violates the Twitter TOS (such as with automated following/unfollows) means that you are breaking Twitter’s TOS and you risk account suspension.

In addition to the improvements to the above features, we have added many other improvements across the board. We continue to work on new features, and plan to continue improving TweetAdder far into the future.

I am sure that many people will be sorely disappointed with these changes, however I think we all knew it would happen one day. Everyone who used TweetAdder (including me) was gaming the system. So it is hard to be too annoyed at TweetAdder at this latest development.

Adapting for Twitter’s Terms of Service

It would be easy to forget about TweetAdder now that the ability to follow and unfollow has been removed. Currently, their home page still promotes the product as having the ability to grow your Twitter following by following and unfollowing others. This is really unfair to anyone who buys their product at this time, as they are being sold a lie.

TweetAdder Home Page
Anyone who buys TweetAdder at this time is being mis-sold. Hopefully, the developers of TweetAdder will do the right thing and give full refunds to anyone who purchases the application on the premise of it being able to automatically follow and unfollow Twitter users.

So should we just forget about TweetAdder? They are hoping that we do not. From now on, all of your following and unfollowing on Twitter will have to be done manually, however TweetAdder are trying to make this process much quicker and much simpler.

If you own a copy of TweetAdder, you will have no choice but to update tomorrow. Before you do so, you should make a point of unfollowing people whilst you still can. Bear in mind that unfollowing too many people at the one time can flag your account to Twitter and increase the risk of your account being suspended. Still, it may be worth unfollowing a little more than usual whilst you can, as it will be slightly more time consuming for you to do so after you upgrade to TweetAdder 4.0.

The update cannot be done automatically. First, you need to click on the update link through TweetAdder 3. Once you have done this, you will find that TweetAdder 3 does not work. Then you need to visit TweetAdder and download the new installation file from the home page (Windows, Linux or Mac). You will then need to install TweetAdder 4 as a completely new application.

TweetAdder runs in the background sometimes, even after closing, so make sure you close all processes before loading TweetAdder 4. After loading the application up, you will be asked to re-authorise each of your Twitter accounts.

TweetAdder Authorisation Process

You will then be given an authorisation pin. The pin is already entered in the bottom field, therefore all you need to do is click the submit button at the bottom of the window.

TweetAdder Authorisation Process

You will quickly realise that TweetAdder 4 does not appear very different from the last version. The interface is identical and, as before, the application crashes all the friggin time. By the time I had re-authorised several Twitter accounts, I had restarted TweetAdder five times.

Despite using the interface being the same, TweetAdder 4 is a very different product to TweetAdder 3. It is no longer an automated Twitter solution.

Down the left hand side you will see the same menus. The settings area is much the same as before, with the option of adding Twitter users to your black list and white list. The automated process of tweeting messages, sending messages and searching trending trends remains as previous versions too. You will see the main changes in the follow and unfollow menus.

TweetAdder 4 Menu

TweetAdder no longer follows and unfollows people on your behalf automatically, however it does give you a helping hand. The Follow/Follow-Back menu gives you a lot of tools to help you follow more users quickly. These options are much the same as they were before. The main difference is that instead of following people for you automatically, TweetAdder provides a list of Twitter users. It is then up to you to manually follow each person.

Complete details are shown for each Twitter user that is displayed in your search including their bio, location, friends, followers and number of tweets. For each user, you can choose to follow them immediately, follow them later or discard them. Clicking on the “Later” button will add them to your “Follow Later List”.

Following in TweetAdder 4

The following tools work well, however they hardly justify a purchase of a product costing at least $55. All in all I was not impressed with the new system of following people. It is essentially the same as before except that you have to do it manually. For me, this is not a massive time saver over following people on Twitter itself (though it would save you a little time if you are following hundreds of people).

I was, however, pleased with the unfollow menu options. It shows you a list of users who:

  • Do not follow you back.
  • Unfollowed you.
  • Have no profile image.
  • Write in a foreign language.
  • Have a high ratio of following to followers (e.g. they follow 2000 people but only have 80 followers themselves).
  • Inactive users.
  • Talkative users.
  • Quiet users.

Although none of above tools are automated, they are incredibly useful. It quickly shows you who is not following back and who is irrelevant. The inactive option is good as you can change the number of days since their last tweet. The default is 30 days, however this can be changed easily. Depending on how you use Twitter, you may also choose to remove talkative or quiet users. That is, people who clog up your Twitter account or people that rarely tweet. By default, talkative users are people who tweet more than twenty times per day and quiet users are people who tweet once or less per day. Again, these values can easily be changed to suit your own Twitter habits.

Doing all of this manually will take up your time, however it does mean that the quality of people you are following on Twitter is going to be much higher than previously. There are few services out there that analyse the people you are following so well.

Unfollowing in TweetAdder 4

Hopefully, a future version will add the option of showing users who have never interacted with you. That would allow you to see those people you followed to get to know but never got round to chatting with them. You could then decide whether to remove them or make an effort to network with them and send them a tweet.

I was planning on recording a quick video for you guys to show you what has changed in the script, however I found out that the developers have already done just that. No point in reinventing the wheel :)

Their video can be seen below. In the video they walk you through the changes in the script that I have touched upon in this article.

Official Tweet Adder 4.0 Overview

Moving Forward

In the past, I tolerated the non-existant support from TweetAdder developers and the constant crashing of the application because the script worked. Now, it does not. It is no longer an application that allows you to automate the process of following people on Twitter. Am I pissed off about this? Actually, no, I am not.

I have read a lot of people saying that they are going to ask for a full refund. I have been using TweetAdder for some time so that is not something I would do as I have used it a lot. I do feel that people who have purchased the script within the last two months should get something back. TweetAdder are known for offering terrible support and not giving refunds to people after seven days, however they could do something for new customers and upgrade their account. For example, they could upgrade someone from “1 Twitter Profile” to 5 or 10.

It is hard to be too angry with the developers of TweetAdder about these changes. There was always the risk of this happening due to the nature of the product and the changes have came about because of a lawsuit against them by Twitter. I have seen other Twitter products being completely abandoned when Twitter sued them. As I have said a few times in this article, TweetAdder are well known for giving terrible support, however rather than giving up on their customers, they have changed their product in order for it to still be relevant. At the very least, they deserve credit for that.

Without doubt, the application is not as good as it once was, though I do feel that TweetAdder have done the best they could under the circumstances. It does not let you follow people on Twitter automatically, though it can still be considered a script that helps you add people on Twitter.

I am kind of torn about these changes. I used TweetAdder once or twice as a trial for my main Twitter account, though I quickly deactivated that as it made the experience of using Twitter worse. I purchased TweetAdder specifically to grow the related Twitter accounts of websites I owned.

I do not have the time, energy or desire to manually update or maintain several Twitter accounts. The only updates those accounts receive are automatic post updates from their corresponding RSS feed. TweetAdder can still be used to follow people, however the new changes in the script mean that I would have to spend an obscene amount of time following and unfollowing people to get the same result as before. Put simply, for all of those Twitter accounts, TweetAdder is now completely worthless. I am not going to waste my time following people manually. It is a complete misuse of my time online.

On the plus side, the application has strangely become more relevant for @KevinMuldoon. I never TweetAdder before for that account, but the new unfollow features are really useful. At a glance, I can now see who is not following me back, who unfollowed me, and who has stopped using Twitter altogether. It is not something I will use everyday, however it is something that I expect I will use every month or so.

For those of you who already use TweetAdder, I am sure these changes will be frustrating. Under the circumstances, I believe TweetAdder have responded in the right away. If you do not own TweetAdder, the application just became much less relevant than it was before. It is difficult for me to recommend the product to those of you who are looking to increase their Twitter following unless you like the manual unfollow features. Though the script still have the ability to automate tweets, direct messages and RSS updates. On the plus side, this could be the end of people of following you on Twitter and then unfollowing a few days later :)

Hopefully, TweetAdder will continued to be improved in the future. Perhaps they could even bring out an online service for customers. Now wouldn’t that be great :)

Good luck,
Kevin

17 thoughts on “The End of Tweetadder as We Know It”

  1. The new tweetadder is actually sort of useless. You can follow people (not automatically), but no one ever follows back. Maybe 0 of 1000 followed by you, will follow you back. Usually (with the old tweetadder) it would be 40 of 100 who would follow back. They (the people you do follow) probably don’t get a message you do follow them, beacuse you use tweetadder, therefore no one will ever follow back. I have this problem at all ten accounts that are running on Tweetadder.

    If I followe poeple by hand (thus in now way through the twetadder software) people do follow back like the old days.

    This makes tweetadder even more useless. But twitter will be over soon t0o, it is getting so boring and there’s nothings new in it anyway.

  2. I am experiencing ‘not following back’ option keeps crashing. has anyone else faced this issue??
    cheers

  3. Sorry to hear about the mac version being buggy. My Mac is back in the UK so I have not tried it yet. Don’t think I will either now. I’ve found myself never using it.

    Glad you liked the post :)

  4. Hi! Great post Kevin. I have been using TweetAdder for the past year for multiple Twitter accounts and it has been invaluable. Whilst losing the automated features is annoying, I could live with it as even manually following/unfollowing through TweetAdder is quicker that doing on Twitter.

    However, TO SAY TWEETADDER 4 IS A BIT BUGGY IS A GIANT UNDERSTATEMENT.

    I use the Mac version and I am only able to use it for a minute before it crashes and slows down my entire computer and have to force quit the program. It happens so frequently I have given up and am looking for alternatives. It’s useless to me now, which is a shame because I want to keep using it and its great features!

    I would strongly recommend anyone with a mac NOT TO BUY TWEETADDER 4. I’m looking for alternatives if anyone has a suggestion. I really like Teepi but you have to create an account (and pay for) each individual Twitter profile. As I manage about 10 it’s not that handy for me! Suggestions welcome. :)

  5. I’m not sure what you mean by “the script” Kevin, is this part of the Tweetadder app? For a while I used tweepi.com to find and filter followers (I recommend it), and may use it again soon, there is a free version. For now I just Hootsuite Pro ($6pm) and the number following grows just through people retweeting me, including a few retweets every day from a celebrity to over 975,000 followers.

    A fantastic service I found recently is called Plugg.io, it’s far better than Hootsuite but does cost more and is worth it for the content generation features, but feature development has stopped due to insufficient sales (it is still maintained), customer service is fantastic.

    I wonder how much to charge for a sponsored tweet, sponsoredtweets.com suggests I could get around $120 for a tweet! I think that’s too much!

  6. I know what you mean. I don’t spend much time on Facebook or Twitter or any of the social networks anymore. It was monopolizing too much of my time. I’m following in your footsteps and working on information products and websites. I get on the social networks sometimes to be social and let them know that I am still around, but I quickly get off and get back to the business of building an empire.

  7. You’re so right about more than sufficient for advertising. I sold tweets on my accounts, and I didn’t have half of the followers that Ian has. I also see that you have a Klout score of 71. Wow, I would like to buy a tweet from you. It’s good for seo. lol. You can sell your tweets on Fiverr and earn a nice little income. I stopped selling statuses and tweets now, because it was taking a lot of my time filling all of those orders.

  8. Hey Kevin,
    I agree. The new TweetAdder version is giving me problems. It immediately closes down every time I open it. I was planning to uninstall it, then re-install it, but I didn’t even feel like being bothered. As far as Twitter’s value, even though it may be ‘hard to get noticed in the noise’, as you mentioned, Twitter does help offer social proof and seo value. It does offer some use. Thanks for sharing your review. I’m hoping that the glitch will get fixed soon. The software is still very new.

    Cheers

  9. I have to say the lack of support puts me off. I want to ask if it can tell me what percentage of followers and followed are in what country, but I can’t email them to ask, and have to register to submit a support ticket and then who answers… users or the developers? I have found support and contact links but every one of them opens the Knowledgebase. Blog comments are also closed, so no way to ask there either.

    The sites says “Voted Best Twitter Marketing and Management Software” and I am wondering who voted and where was this vote? I’ve searched for the answer but found nothing.

  10. I considered purchasing years ago ago when it first launched but at the time there was a lot of talk that it wasn’t worth it and possibly a scam, I now think I should have purchased as I may have spent more over several months using alternative services in order to raise the profile of @thequote.

    I am still interested in buying now, but this article makes me think it’s probably not worth $55 for one account, but it’s good value compared to Social Oomph but which has unlimited accounts on all versions, including free. I think I would pay the $55 for three accounts however. I think I’ll buy it if I can earn the purchase cost through an occasional sponsored link on @thequote, what so you think? I have avoided all advertising as I don’t want to lose followers, but then no advertising makes it a liability, not an asset, especially as I can’t charge for the tweets.

  11. Sorry. I sometimes use the word script, app and application interchangeably. I have used HootSuitePro before however I have not used those other services you mentioned. Tweepi seems similar to TweetAdder in many respects.

    If you can get $120 for a tweet, you should obviously take it.. though I agree with you, it may be too much. You will probably make more money by dropping your price and selling more tweets.

  12. Yeah I try and limit my time on them. They take up a lot of my time…plus they can get pretty boring too.

  13. I always had the problem with it crashing (Windows 7). The new version is the same. I expect the software will always be buggy like that.

    Yeah there is value to using Twitter, however there is not much value if you do not have a large audience. For example, if you only have 200 Twitter followers (and assuming they are just regular followers and not influential), it would be better to spend your time doing something else e.g. writing an article. :)

  14. Lack of support is giving some credit. A more accurate term would be “no support”. Most of my emails were never replied to. It crashes all the time too which means you have to load it back up at least two or three times a day.

    I don’t use it everyday anymore though I will turn it on occasionally to check my accounts.I imagine they created that award and gave it to themselves :)

  15. Hi Ian,

    It is not the product it once was however it would be great for @thequote as you can automate tweets. All you do is upload a text file with thousands of tweets and then set it to tweet at the intervals you choose. The only downside to the application is that tweets will only be sent when the application is open on your computer. For a Twitter account such as yours, a service may be better as it could post 24 hours a day.

    You have close to 150,000 followers at the moment, which is more than sufficient for advertising. You are 100% right: if you are not going to monetise it, what’s the point in having it?

    If there anything you are unsure about the script let me know and I’ll do my best to help you.

    Kevin

  16. I have never seen great amounts of traffic from Twitter either. This is probably due to me only having around 2,000 followers for my personal account.

    I imagine you would need to have 50,000+ followers in order to see a substantial amount of traffic when you link to an article. Traffic should grow exponentially with more people retweeting posts etc.

    I would like to increase my following on Twitter and be more active on there. At the moment, I do not see much activity there. I am sure there are a lot of people following me who have no interest in what I say or do.

    Plus, it is hard to get noticed amongst the noise. I checked a lot of my followers one day and saw that many of them were following thousands of people. How can I get my messages noticed when they are seeing thousands of messages every hour?

  17. My use of tweetadder has always been sporadic at best. I know some people swear by twitter as a great driver of traffic, which it certainly can be, but I’ve seen so much more success with much less effort on Facebook, Reddit and even Google+ that twitter and therefore tweetadder will remain low on my priority list.

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